Yeah that's why I order express if it's origin is from the opposite coast and priority if it's just a couple states away. Anyway I'm gonna give this shout out to KUSH411 for some nice glass, he went out of his way and had it shipped early in the day so it hit the 8am mail trucks in transit and it weighed a good deal overweight. I guess I'll be back domestic with my crystal orders rather than from #1 canuck. I've been lucky or smart about my orders lately and gotten nothing but bubblegum crystal lately, hopefully the bullshit from this fall is about over with. X) nomad